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i made friends with him the first day i went in the bar and he has taught me about wine via tasting and his bar and just being a culture. customer. and just in the last year i have gone from knowing nothing to knowing about all kinds of different wines, pinot, chardonnay, you know? it's made my life happier, but aside from that it's a nice, lounge-type environment that reads a friendly atmosphere. thank you. >> thank you. >> hello. my name is vincent and i work for liam at the pour house on polk. i just wanted to say that i really, really enjoy working at this place. it's a quaint little spot and i
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feel that people come in here to decompress, you know? in the evening. we're not open very late. people like to learn about wines from around the world and it's a place you can lounge out, with the company and conversation with the people that you are with there and it's a very enjoyable atmosphere. i think people who choose to come in here, versus some of the other bars on polk because of the difference of noise level versus some of the other bars. there are a lot of bars on polk where you can purchase wine as well. i just bought a bottle for my family as well for the holiday season. so working with liam has been great. it's a clean place. it's very mellow and enjoyable for me because people enjoy coming in here. i thought it was worth coming in here and explaining to you. so i do appreciate you hearing
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me out here. >> good evening commissioners, pretty soon it's going to be good night. we have been here a long time and i want to thank you for being here. we're all troopers today. i worked with liam, along with community outreach to the community. i just want to emphasize when this was continued, what was done since the continuance is you have to go back to the drawing board. what liam did was he contacted the supervisor in the district. he contacted ron case, representing the lower polk neighborhood association. he had sit-downs with the permit officer and police captain and basically went in and tried to get to the root of the ambiguity. how this was resolved you have a business that has been there for almost eight years that the community over 45 letters from
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residents, over 45 businesses in the immediate area have said it's necessary, desirable and compatible. there were a few issues brought up today and out of respect to those people because they are neighbors, i would ask liam if he has limited entertainment to close the windows during the time he does have that. it's probably not all that often, but to accommodate and respect the neighbors' wishes. the reason why he probably has the windows open is for better ventlation, so people can breathe a little more easily. what he could do is put the music in the back of the space, so that way the sound is muffled and doesn't necessarily have an adverse to the sidewalk or anywhere else. i think there was a speaker who was removed prior -- so that will help alleviate some of those issues. he has some visits from the police department since the 25th of october. also visits from the
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entertainment commission. so those calls into the pd have been answered. they basically are visits unannounced and everything was in good order. so we have good understanding and right move at the right time is to sustain this business as a wine retail/wine tasting bar and wine bar. and move forward. so i urge you for your support on this. we can't afford to lose another business. >> is there any additional public comment? okay. seeing none, the public comment portion is closed. commissioner borden? >> yes, to the zoning administrator, for noise ordinance, what are the requirements around noise and i know it's after a certain point in the evening. i have live near nightclubs, bars and all the rest and see this issue all the time, where
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most of san francisco businesss do not have air conditioning. it gets very warm and people open windows and obviously sound travels out, because even if you have people at your private home and your windows are open, your neighbors can hear that typically. what are the sound ordinance -- noise ordinance sort of rules around the sound travel for any business, i guess? >> i don't know all the details specifically. it's enforced by -- it's enforced by several departments depending on the type of sound it is. in this case it's the entertainment commission and they have someone experienced in using the sound equipment. i believe it's a rating above ambient can be. if they are above that, they are in violation of the sound ordinance and unfortunately i don't know what decibel level that would be, but that is under the purview in this case the entertainment commission. >> i think we have heard from
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people testifying is more voices rather than music. would they be measuring general voice levels without [ music and enttainment? entertainment? >> i believe when you get to voices and there is no entertainment component, it's more of a police issue. >> what i see is that unfortunately this is a common problem that we have when you have windows and open those and sound travels. if you have a party at your house and windows are open, people can hear and that is how they know where the parties are. i am familiar with this business and i know there are a lot of businesses on polk street that causes nuisances and i know this is not one of
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those businesses. there are businesses that cater to younger, full bar, noisier demographic. i would consider supporting this with conditions, with removal of the speaker and ask project sponsor to close the windows when you have live music. do you have air conditioning? to the extent possible? what is it? 8:00 for noise ordinance isn't there time? >> i believe it's 10:00 p.m. when the decibel level changes. >> i recognize that people go to bed earlier, but the windows would never be open past 10:00 or whatever. i would defer to other people to make that call. , but 10:00 seems reasonable
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based upon the sound ordinance. so that is my motion. >> second. >> commissioner antonini? >> i agree with that. i think it's a good establishment and i did have correspondence from one person that they were serving hard alcohol and that is clearly not the case. it's beer and wine. it's not a bridge and tunnel crowd, but a lot of locals from the neighborhood. so that sounds good to me, but i would go along with the conditions and what i hear is that the lighting on the outside -- the speaker on the outside has apparently already been corrected, but that is important that that stay that way and the light is minimized to the effect it's not interfering with anybody and the stage is moved to the rear. and windows closed at 10:00. and i don't know if there were
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any other conditions, commissioner? it's a step in the right direction? >> if i could clarify the conditions. currently no speakers are permitted on the exterior of the building and all windows closed during any performance of live entertainment and in addition to that, that all windows are closed period at 10:00 p.m.regardless of whether or not there is life entertainment. thank you. >> commissioner wu. i'm supportive eh that motion. i think i would like to learn more about the role of entertainment commission and their ability to enforce, either next time there is a case that deals with noise. because i think they have more capacity than the planning commission. >> someone came from the entertainment commission and
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gave a presentation and so i am sure we could ask for them to come back. >> call for the question please. >> >> (roll call ) is moved, commissioners that motion passes 6-1. >> commissioners, you have been sitting here since 10:30 in the morning and we have three more items and i ask if you want a 10-minute break or keep going here? >> 5-minute break. all right we're going >> >> >> frantic shoppers around you may be in need of a break from the festivities and have no
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December 15, 2012 1:30am-2:00am PST

TOPIC FREQUENCY Liam 3, San Francisco 2, Wu 1, Borden 1, Vincent 1, Antonini 1, Pinot 1, Noise Ordinance 1, Polk 1, Ventlation 1, Enttainment 1
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